And you don't take no accountability for the shit that you out here telling these fucking kids, man, how many people gotta do fucking Chicago and Philly and fucking New Orleans and Minnesota and all these other fucking places for this old, ignorant ass hip hop shit, man. I can't fucking believe Diddy possibly got Pac killed. Are you fucking crazy? If we killed Pac, how the fuck are we even listening to this shit anymore? Y'all are too powerful for this shit. This is irritating
Darrain …
@TheBriefOne · 5:00
Sometimes you gotta grieve. Let it burn, let it bleed and let yourself heal. Pray to God that it will. You got a spirit that a bullet can't kill? That doesn't make it any less real? They say it takes a man to raise a man? You're slipping through my hands like grains of sand? And here I stand trying to wrestle with the hourglass? Maybe see how long I can make an hour last?
Darrain …
@TheBriefOne · 5:00
We acted like these individuals, either one of them have really done something like, as compared to like the common ground foundation and come, you know, I'm saying, are you looking at people like chance the rapper and what he done did in South Africa even? You got to look at people like Acorn who wrote live but then turned around and you see him on video saying, I in this day and the third none, this american miss, you know what I'm saying?
Derek Pierre
@DerekPierre · 4:02
So to see it being manipulated in such a way, man, like, to see it, like, really getting pulled up. Even when I see people interjecting, I'm like, bruh, it's so many people from outside of the culture that's, like, fueling shit that they don't even understand. And it results in so many people dying on the other end of that shit. I'm gonna tell you some shit, right?
They're beefing uptown, New Orleans, where I'm at. I mean, they're beefing in Chicago. They beefing in France. I mean, it's beefing everywhere. Beefing in Russia. So, you know, so is, could this be like a mirror reflection that we may be at war more on the inside than the war we witnessing on the outside?
So we just calling it entertainment at this time. But, but anytime you have this much force enforcing something, and don't forget the word rap with an e is rape. Let me say that again. The word rap with an e is rape. It's very funny that you have a lot of rape allegations going on within this rap community, within the hip hop community within lot of the entertainment industry right now. But as we, I'm not making light on rape at all
Darrain …
@TheBriefOne · 4:08
We, unless it hit the ground, tick tock, whatever it is to be socially entertaining before it is socially applicable to be included in the culture. But look, you mentioned one thing is hardcore, but it's true. When is any other culture you can find primarily use entertainment as is means of promoting the culture? In of itself it's master culture. Except, well, the coliseums of Rome. Hmm, I wonder why. Just a thought, you know? Anyway, it's beginning
Darrain …
@TheBriefOne · 4:33
What should we be thinking about? Because I looked at the view count of those videos, you talk about close to 20 million total in under 24 hours. 20 million. It's unheard of. Is unprecedented. Yet it just goes to show, like, and this is what's strange about it. Cause you mentioned attention. The average attention span now is between, I think, seven to 15 seconds. Used to be a lot longer
And if you believe something different than what the other guys say, then it's on you to respond. Some of the greatest hip hop battles ever is what shaped it and made it a viable multi billion dollar business. That it is. Cool Modi versus ll cool J, that's what I'm bad is about. That's what the wild, wild west is about. MC Sham, which is, uh. Which is. That's right. My aunt said it wasn't even a fight
Derek Pierre
@DerekPierre · 0:13
You know what? You right. Hip hop is a sport. The most recent update. I see dead people. I'm gonna get back to y'all in just a second with some thoughts
Darrain …
@TheBriefOne · 4:31
You can't. Look, I can't expect even that, you know. Cause I like turntablism. To me, my get down is DMC, you know, looking at Q Burton, them and rock raider hit that. Rock the bells ninja. A rap ninja, ninja hitting him. Hit that, you know, DMC real, you know. You know, scratch battling, where it got dirty. Real dirty
Derek Pierre
@DerekPierre · 5:00
But the beauty that's come from this is. It's been a really long time since I've been this excited to talk about any goddamn thing. Let me tell you, I am entirely too hype. And that is the power of hip hop. That is the power of us being able to communicate with one another
And then, you know, you had later even Nelly sold 10 million records because hip hop was just that white hot because of what Diddy and all of them were doing, and Snoop and Dre. So what happened was Nas tried to say, wait, wait, wait, I'm the God MC out. Because the number one thing as a rapper, as an mc that is going to come into play in the battle is, I got more money than you, nigga
Tupac told you way back then the shit was already happening. See, people have very selective memory. So to the guys my age, I be 50 this year. Hip hop 51. They like to fantasize about how. How awesome hip hop was in the eighties and shit. Yeah, I was alive. Yeah, you had the fat boys. You know what I mean? Later days, you had cool. See, you had buffoonery. You had cornering
Swell Team
@Swell · 0:15
Derek Pierre
@DerekPierre · 4:59
And more often than not, hip hop is the only genre of music where people can go to Phil at bravado, where they can flex, where they can't brag a little bit. It's the closest thing that we get. I love being able to see the lyrical word playing
Derek Pierre
@DerekPierre · 0:10
Let me also just say that this whole conversation is way more hip hop than some of the shit that's been going out there recently. Thank you. Thank you
I sat in the boardrooms when the decisions of what they put out and what they don't put out was made by people who don't look like you or me, to say the least. Okay? And what I want you to understand real clear, is it for us, culture, for us, it's a representation of something beautiful we created. See, we created the blues. Then they usurped it, took it, and said they made it. See, we created rock and roll
Derek Pierre
@DerekPierre · 0:48
If not, is it something that's even worth trying to hold on to? I understand that there's a shadowy board of executives that are doing this shit. My question is, how do we fight back? And is it even worth the fight?
Robert Jenkins
@Guruball1 · 4:46
People have always gone against each other from the little popcorn, bubble gum raps that we used to have back in the seventies to now. It's just gotten dangerous after the park and biggie murders, because it's just. They took it to another level. But the sad part about it was that they didn't actually take it to another level. It was vibe and source magazines that took it to that level. They were the ones who amped it up and started the east coast west coast
You know, I said, he coming out the door with his, you know, the guns, the barrels locked and loaded. You know, at the same time, I like, he got his knives and they sharp, the blades are there. But you pacing the floor at night on the algorithm you created. So, you know, I just thought about that. So I just wanted to point that out. You know, you definitely on point. You definitely getting it
Mike Black
@VelvetShinobi · 4:49
Man, my big bro done came in speaking some facts and some gems, man. You know, I think me, like a lot of other people, you know, we're tuning in more. We're excited because, you know, yes, this is probably the most exciting hip hop has ever been. This is probably the most inspired these artists have ever been
Derek Pierre
@DerekPierre · 4:57
I hope rather than just letting this narrative turn into whatever, I hope collectively, we can come together and demand more from the music that we listen to, because, again, the fact that. The fact that Drake could have been rapping on this level this whole time, as a fan of the culture, I'm insulted, because I'm like, say, bruh, had you just been rapping like that, all this criticism he would have got probably would have never really been there to begin with
Derek Pierre
@DerekPierre · 4:07
More importantly, them knowing how much disinfluences us, in particular, them knowing that we are attached to this culture in a totally different way than some of the other people looking in on this, attached to that culture, I think that part feels. It feels kind of offensive to me. It's offensive to me because it's like, hey, man, like, y'all could at least let us know when this wasn't gonna be hip hop. Y'all could at least told us, because we
Derek Pierre
@DerekPierre · 1:56
Yo, again, it's not uncommon for rappers to go to jail, but for these kind of allegations, for somebody to be so close to the top, like, for all the things that's being implicated with this, on top of the other stuff that's going on with the industry, it's heavy, man. This is a different time. Does this make you feel like, damn, you know, is this even the thing I should really even be paying attention to?
Derek Pierre
@DerekPierre · 0:29
I love how you said that. It's a lot at stake right now. It's a lot at stake. So let me. Let me ask, though, why we even having this conversation? I was just telling Mike myself. I think. I think the attention needs to be focused elsewhere. Do you think these kind of conversations and these spaces will help put the attention somewhere where it's probably a little better served?
First of all, what is exactly at stake, right? And how is this affecting your everyday life? Or how is it affecting you, period? You know, at the end of the day, are you able to call Kendrick Lamar, Andre, and say, hey, tone it down? I mean, I never saw no one call the jungle and say, tell the lion, stop killing all these analysts, man. What are you doing? Right?
Y'all gotta get this in your mind. You know what? Niggas be fucking up. How about that? Everybody has the opportunity to do wrong, and at the same time, the other end of that spectrum is sometimes it really is just a friendly game of basketball. That's what this is. And it's on the highest level because it's public. Millions of people are tuned in, and there's a power in that
They gauge what they are going to do based off your words. You are casting spells on yourself because your words let them know what you have already put in your mind that they want to do, which is like giving them permission. What do you think a country would do if they had a presidential election and nobody voted? I literally mean that. Like they had an election and nobody actually voted. They would start talking to the, well, what's wrong? What. What can we do better?
Darrain …
@TheBriefOne · 0:32
Hey, y'all, this just for everybody. I'm proud of my people today. I can't believe y'all went this far, man, on hip hop, man. For the spirit of hip hop, man. One love to everybody here. That's all I'm gonna say. Happy Sunday, y'all. For real? For real. Like, I ain't had time to get through the rest of it, but this look like this amazing, y'all
Shawna Kearsley
@OnAcornBay · 2:01
Trust yourself and be the thought leader that the world needs. Be the leader that you want to see in hip hop and everything. Thank you for sharing this, and I'm looking forward to listening to everyone
And I have always thought and told him that it's his generation, and him itself, I feel, has the new philosophy, the new understanding of what needs to drive this culture and, you know, for the new direction where it needs to go. So I'm just thanking you this morning for, you know, sending these loving, kind words and just look forward to hearing the rest of the conversation, too, and see where Derek is going with the next conversation. All right
Mike Black
@VelvetShinobi · 3:20
Whether it be music, whether it be martial arts, whether it be football, basketball, whether it be long distance running, whether it be swimming, playing chess, checkers, video games. There are tons of realms for people to be competitive in a healthy way. And it is when we lose sight of this healthy competition that egregious things start to happen. And there's that word again. Egregious. It's crazy that a simple competition in music and artistry has now begun to get violent
Robert Jenkins
@Guruball1 · 2:45
Threw the towel on the basketball court during the game, tried to hit the referee in the back, but the referee didn't see it. Then he took a heating pad off his leg, unwrapped it, threw it onto the court where one of the other players had to kick it off the court, and it cost him $100,000 fine today by the commissioner, Adam Silva of the NBA