You. Hi, I'm Linda Olsen. I met Ron John in 2013 when we were both members of the California Business Defense Coalition. We were a group of California business people fighting a retractive tax claw back imposed by the franchise tax board. What was once a benefit for California business startups stock was now going to be clawed back by the FTB. We won mostly, or at least we didn't have to pay the tax, but the benefit went away going forward