And all humans are imperfect. I have yet to meet a perfect human. We don't always like what we find there. There's a lot going on. Giving up desire is most easily attainable by removing distraction and limiting systematically sanctioned violations of consent. The leaders, teachers, they practiced meditation. Meditation made them good at seeing how things happen. Meditation grounded them in the infinite. That is why they sometimes appeared deep, sometimes even great
