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I feel he has a very good presence in front of them. I mean, they actually acknowledge him. So I guess that whole pack leader concept, obviously not to make a dog submissive or whatever it is just the presence, the commanding presence which gets that respect from the dog. I think it's phenomenal. I really wish I had that. So Caesar had talked to you. If you're listening. Amazing. And then I came across Zack, George or other Zac
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