Mtwadamela Ijogo
@Mtwadamela · 1:51
Negative stereotypes anyone?
Anyone, of course, among Blacks, all white guys have small penises, which we know is not true. But that's just a negative stereotype that we said. I'm not trying to be funny. I'm just saying, but I'm asking all of you, all of you. All that sounded silly, huh? I'm asking you all what negative stereotypes did you grow up with?
Mtwadamela Ijogo
@Mtwadamela · 2:13
And I also I forgot to mention one of one of the things I really remember from my childhood is I was in junior high school, and there were there was an Indian and family from India that lived in our town, and they had three daughters. I believe that went to school with us. And the impression I got is that they didn't want their daughters around anybody, black, white or otherwise. And I always reflected on that later in my life because we never seen those girls nowhere
Todd Mitchell
@Todzilla · 4:58
And it was just more acceptable to think that way. I and I feel like a lot of people my age, and I bet we're not too far apart in age, but we had to sort of balance. We love our families, we love our parents, we love our grandparents, but we have to come in terms with the fact that they have unacceptable ideas about things and an unacceptable way of thinking in certain situations
Mtwadamela Ijogo
@Mtwadamela · 3:16
And it was a result of the times they lived in. And none of us have ever lived in quite that type of structure. I've never lived where you can't drink from certain faucets, drinking fountains or whatever. I've never lived like that. I didn't grow up like that. My elders, the generation before me made sure that that was taken care of. So I'm just curious to see what everybody is saying, but I do respect your reply
Todd Mitchell
@Todzilla · 1:36
There's a level of absurdity that once it's reached, there's nothing to do but wait for that to go away, wait for natural cause to take it off the Earth. I mean, it's sad that it has to come to that, but not as sad the fact that those ideas exist like you said. So correct on all points
Average Joe
@AverageJoe · 4:48
Oh, man. How would you like to begin alphabetically or chronologically in the order of which I heard these stereotypes in these racist things. I grew up in a city called Chester, Pennsylvania, in the 19th 70s, post Vietnam, post, a civil rights movement. And so there was a lot of racial tension. And you would go downtown to the Avenue of the States. The malls hadn't kicked in yet. So you'd go downtown to buy the things you needed
Mtwadamela Ijogo
@Mtwadamela · 1:31
I always wondered about that because everybody has some type of preconceived notion about other groups, especially if they don't really have any experience in dealing with that group, which is usually the people you hear the most in your statements from people who have never dealt with that particular group. But they're quick to say they're this or they're that. But they've never probably even talked to one person out of that group or had one bad experience and chalking it to everybody from that group
Unity Eagle
@UnityEagle · 0:34
Well, this is a great topic. And you know what's funny? You were talking about having this idea of white people having small penises. Wow. White people always had this idea that black people or Black men had huge penises. So I'm going to ask you, is this true or is this as true as White man having small penises? Just asking
Mtwadamela Ijogo
@Mtwadamela · 1:10
Unity, Eagle. Oh, boy. How did I know we we'd eventually circle back around to that. Okay, well, no, it's not a hundred percent true. True for all black men as it's not 100% true for all white men. There's exceptions to every rule. Okay. Is it true? I'm going to plead the fifth on myself. I'm going to plead the fifth on that because I don't want to incriminate myself
Unity Eagle
@UnityEagle · 0:56
And now I live in the street in the Netherlands, and we are the only white people in the street. And every household in the street is from a different culture or race or background. And it so much enriches my life. And I never felt safer than now. So, yeah, I have the same struggle
Unity Eagle
@UnityEagle · 1:27
But unconsciously, there is influence on stereotyping and not just about the huge or small penises. But like I was telling Robin, unconsciously, we feel this fear often for black people. And I don't know where it's coming from because I was not brought up with stupid ideas about black people or whatsoever. But unconsciously, we feel this as white people, and I don't know where it's coming from. So I'm still searching where the roots are of that feeling
Mtwadamela Ijogo
@Mtwadamela · 1:01
Yeah, that's precisely it unity Eagle. That's what I'm looking for. Not so much the bigger the small penises. I know that's something a lot of people get stuck on with black men, but it's that feeling of fear that you get that you don't know where it comes from when you see large groups of black people, I believe that's the inherent racism that's given to all of us
Unity Eagle
@UnityEagle · 0:37
Yes, definitely. Let's get to the bottom of this because what's interesting to me is they try to do the same with Islamic people if you watch the mainstream media, etc. But it's does not have that effect on me unconsciously, because I don't feel fear when I'm around those people. But with black people, I do well, I can't remember hearing bad stuff about out black people. So that's what I'm so curious. Where did it go wrong?
Unity Eagle
@UnityEagle · 0:43
And what I found so fascinating is that I never have I ever had a bad or negative experience with Black people. And my feelings don't resonate with my a thought parent about Black people. And on the other end, I do have many negative experiences with white people. But when I'm around white people, I don't have this unconscious sphere. So yeah, I really love to get to the bottom of this. So hopefully many more people are going to participate in this conversation
Mtwadamela Ijogo
@Mtwadamela · 3:17
But having the audacity to look at me like I was the criminal, like I was going around there trying to steal their little Slurpees or whatever when it was really those three teenagers that was killing them. And so I just feel like you get what you deserve under them type of circumstances. You got what you deserve. And I didn't feel no sympathy or nothing for none of the items that were stolen out of that store
Unity Eagle
@UnityEagle · 1:08
I totally feel you and I had a similar experience. But over here they treat Islamic people more that way because I have some Islamic friends, and they asked me to go shopping with them so I could observe how they would be treated like thieves. Indeed. And I could not believe it. So indeed, I went shopping with two of those girls, and I was stunned that they were followed by the personnel like they were thieves. And I spoke to the lady of the store while she did that
Unity Eagle
@UnityEagle · 1:32
Oh, my God. All of a sudden, it hit me where maybe my unconscious fear of black people came from, you know, over in the Netherlands, we have this tradition called center class. It's kind of like center clothes, but it's a white Eagle, and it helps us all black beets. And when we grow up as kids, you were teaching. When you are sweet, you get presents from Santa Claus
Mtwadamela Ijogo
@Mtwadamela · 1:40
But we marinate for nine months in darkness, even according to the religious scriptures of the Bible and stuff like that, they all say that there was darkness and God separated the darkness from the light so that God was dwelling in darkness himself before he made light. So I don't know where this negative connotation of black came from. Obviously, it came from Europeans, but it seems to have everybody's internalized a lot of that stuff
Vincent Strader
@Allowistic · 3:47
It's very interesting hearing this conversation. I guess I grew up in the reverse way. I was taught that all humans were equal and that member and my grandparents were very religious and went to Church all the time. I remember as a kid singing a little crayon box song, talking about all the colors of the children and that Jesus loved them all equally. And I just never was instilled with any of those fears. I was pretty much colorblind. I just thought everybody was human
Swell Team
@Swell · 0:15
Average Joe
@AverageJoe · 1:14
Hey. So I'm driving home from work. I'm just getting caught up on everything here. I just want to chime in with one thing. I used to date a nurse and of the stereotype of black men. She told me it's not a stereotype. And this is why I got beef with the black man. But, yeah, she said no, that is not a stereotype
So I'm Puerto Rican. Both my parents are from the island, and I grew up with a lot negative stereotypes anyone toward Mexicans, specifically undocumented immigrants. And there was this sort of belief, too, that my grandmother would actually pass down to me and my siblings that Mexicans are somehow lazy and entitled and more likely to be criminals compared to other Latin American groups like us. And my parents weren't super explicit about this
So the thing I always hated growing up was even if they weren't from the capital, people would say, oh, I'm from the capital of wherever country they're from, even if they're like, from the outskirts of or if they're from farther away from or farther out from the city of and such, which happens amongst Peruvians. And I'm sure a lot of other Hispanics as well, too
Mtwadamela Ijogo
@Mtwadamela · 2:01
Yeah. Yeah. It's a trip because I remember years ago, and when I was in my early mid 20s, I was trying my hand at boxing, trying to make it to the 92 Olympic team. And I just noticed that especially in the boxing world, the Puerto Ricans and the Mexicans just hated each other's guts. And I always used to wonder where that came from. But so many of us grow up with these preconceived notions and stereotypes about other people